Lucinda, a number of my rose growing friends simply take a rather large cutting and stick it in the ground. Most of them take! Unless you are very far north, it may well work for you. Penny . ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.