Re: [gardeners] Wednesday, pretty close to the garden
George Shirley (gardeners@globalgarden.com)
Wed, 19 Jun 2002 20:38:56 -0500
William Dietz is another SF writer I'm reading at the moment. Hardcore technical adventure SF, my
favorite. If you really want to read some good stuff look for Andre Norton, any good library should
have her books. I've been reading them for more than 50 years and I think she has been writing
longer than that. Mostly stuff about telepathy, teleportation, etc. When you're ready just drop me a
note and I'll give you a list of authors I have enjoyed rhinocerously for years. YMMV
By the way, Card also writes horror novels so be careful what you pick out unless you enjoy horror
stuff.
George
barbb@velocitus.net wrote:
>
> I had preconceived ideas (wrong ones) about what SF was, and hadn't read
> any until y'all had the discussion about it, I think on the other gardens
> list. I just borrow from the library and found that I really enjoy Card's
> writings - always thought provoking, tho sometimes disturbing. I'll
> probably run out of his books this winter and be asking for more
> recommendations.
>
> Barb in Idaho
>
> At 05:44 PM 6/19/02 -0500, you wrote:
> >Yeah, most of what Card has written. Speculative fiction is about right
> but mostly it's called
> >alternate history writing. Lots of good stuff out there if you look for
> it. We have a Book Warehouse
> >nearby and I hate to go in there as they have a very large science fiction
> and fantasy section.
> >Costs me 50 or 60 bucks when I do go, mostly because Miz Anne is with me
> and we end up buying some
> >art books too.
> >
> >George
> >
> >barbb@velocitus.net wrote:
> >>
> >> Anyone read Pastwatch by Orson Scott Card? Basically he says history
> >> doesn't matter because it can all be changed. Course he does write
> >> speculative fiction. The book starts out sometime way in the future and
> >> ends up changing the outcome of Columbus' voyage.
> >>
> >> Barb in Idaho
> >>
> >> At 03:47 PM 6/19/02 -0400, you wrote:
> >> >Shucks Margaret, why don't you just speak up there? <VBG> You and I
> >> >are old enough to remember the NEBC (No Europeans Before Columbus)
> >> >group of historians, archaeologists, anthropologists too. Now it is
> >> >accepted theory that yes, Virginia, there were Europeans in the New
> >> >World before Chris Columbus,
> >> >
> >> >In Canada, George:Newfoundland, a place today known as L'Anse aux
> >> >Meadows. NW tip of Newf. A 9th century Viking settlement was found,
> >> >complete with runes, which dated the place to Eric the red or was it lief
> >> >erikson or are these the same guys??? oh, I should go check but too lazy
> >> >right this minute. The exciting thing is the refs in the runes tie into
> >> some of
> >> >the norse sagas which we all thought were bs when we read them in school.
> >> > None of this was discovered before the 80s, which puts an awful lot of
> >> us in
> >> >the no Europeans before Columbus camp.
> >> >
> >> > also Asians and possibly Africans.
> >> >Australian Aborigines, I would doubt that myself. Pacific Islanders,
> >> >no doubt at all.
> >> >
> >> >I though Pacific Islanders were related to the Abos...where is Evil John
> >> these
> >> >days? He should know, and even if he doesn't I'm sure he would venture an
> >> >opinion:)).
> >> >
> >> >Lucinda
> >> >
> >> >George
> >> >
> >> >Margaret Lauterbach wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I've been thinking of you, Lucinda. Is school out yet? We
> >> >> recently watched a program on a digital Discovery channel about
> >> >> early population of parts of Brazil and the southern tip (name
> >> >> escapes me at the moment). French archaeologists were claiming that
> >> >> descendants of Australian aborigines settled Brazil 12 to 15,000
> >> >> years ago IIRC (anyway, it was earlier than the usual 11,000 years
> >> >> that I've read), having crossed the Pacific Ocean then,not being
> >> >> content to be on solid ground, hiked across the northern tip of
> >> >> South America to settle in the Amazon basin. Then they migrated
> >> >> southward, serving as the Tierra del Fuegan "Indians." I sat there,
> >> >> turned to Chuck and said "this is bullshit. I'm changing channels."
> >> >> Are these French archaeologists (female) as whacko as I think, or is
> >> >> it me? Margaret L
> >> >>
> >> >> >What old roses do you have George?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Lucinda
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >