Hi Margaret! Yep, it's me. Hope you're doing great and having a great year. I'm coming out of lurk mode to ask a few questions for now. Have been obnoxiously busy at work. 50 to 80 hours a week since March and usually at least 6 days a week. The paychecks are great, but it's burning a hole in my pocket. Work is getting in the way of my gardening and personal life! ;-) The mower idea sounds great. We used to do that for the lawn in the old yard. This house has a nice little postage stamp sized yard. It's roughly 50 by 60 in the back, and 40 by 60 in the front, including the sidewalk and hell strip. We eliminated the lawn in the back completely. The next major project is putting in the 30' round patio in the center of the back yard beds. Most of the trees are in the back. With the mower option I'll need to rake them, drag them to the front, mow them, rerake the mulch and bring it back to the backyard beds. The main advantage to this system will be the leavings in the frontyard grass. The front yard is a lot more compacted than the back, and can use the organic matter. Back when I fantasized about being finished the backyard by September (of this year!) I planned on airating the front and replacing the weedy bermuda with a nice tall fescue lawn. Fall is the best time to plant tall fescue around here. Spring planted fescue usually fries in the summer and gets weedy quickly. Tall fescue is expensive and a pain to maintain in this area, but with such a tiny plot of it to deal with, I could afford the pleasant aggrievation of competing with my dad (the Lawn God) in Massachussettes. It will have to wait at least a year. This years drought meant I only had to mow 5 times! Wasting water on a lawn doesn't really seem too important right now, especially one that barely makes it through a normal summer here. A few people have said they were very dissappointed with their Flowtrons. I might spring for the electric chipper anyway. Since it's only $200, I can afford a new toy right now. ;-) Thanks for your advice, hope you have a great autumn! Matt in Norfolk, Va. USDA zone 8 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 08:13:56 -0600 From: Margaret Lauterbach <melauter@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [gardeners] chipper/shredder Matt Trahan, is this you? those leaf shredders don't hold a candle to a lawnmower's shredding ability. Some people put leaves in a metal trash barrel, then lower a regular weedeater inside. That does as well as the weedeater-type of leaf shredder. But it's still inferior to a lawnmower that exerts some suction as it passes over dry leaves. Margaret L __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com