Everything I've read on the Ponderosa says it is most likely a natural sport and not a true lemon as Olin says. Still, for my climate and soil it does a jam up job. Somewhere around here I've got a digital photo of me holding up two large Ponderosa lemons and they're about half the size of my 7 1/2 hat size head. <VBG> George olin wrote: > > The old Meyer lemons I have seen are kind of round and look like they might > be a cross between an orange and a lemon. I understand CA allows only the > Improved Meyer but AZ still prohibits both. > > Our lemon tree is Lisbon, a vicious, thorny, prolific tree that needs to be > cut back every few years. We get enough lemons from it for us, for several > families of snowbird relatives, and still have quite a bit left over to haul > to the food bank. > > People here tend to use he terms Ponderosa and Rough Lemon interchangeably > but there is a difference. The fruit looks similar - large, seedy and > bumpy.. But the Ponderosa is a smaller, thorny tree and is not a true > lemon. Rough lemon is a larger lemon-sized tree and was used as a > rootstock, primarily in the Zone 10 region around Yuma. It was pretty > common 35 years ago when suckers were allowed to grow below the bud union > but it is now pretty rare. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Shirley" <gshirl@bellsouth.net> > > Yeah, the CTV was the reason the Meyer Lemon was completely changed. As > > I said earlier the original ones were round and orange in color, looked > > nothing like a lemon at all but were very sour. I was totally amazed a > > couple of years ago when people started telling me I was crazy, the > > Meyer was yellow, looked like a lemon, etc. Looked them up and read the > > story as to why the Meyer was changed so completely. Reckon Arizona > > hasn't gotten around to certifying the "new" Meyer as yet but Florida > > and some other citrus states allow them no as I understand. > > > > I grow the Ponderosa lemon myself, much harder here in SW Louisiana and > > only gets bitten back by frost about every 5 to 6 years, particularly if > > I forget to cover it. Have harvested lemons up to 3 lbs from the thing > > and 2 lbs is common. It's not very attractive, grows sort of sprangly > > but sure is productive. > > Thanks for the cites, very informative.