Finally had a beautiful day and time off to enjoy it! Ended up filling 4 plastic shopping bags from cleaning up after the dog... LOL. It's been 2 months since I had time off and daylight when the yard had been dry enough not to be too messy. We have had good rains consistently for several months. We went from being low on rainfall this summer to 5 inches above normal for the year and 16 inches above last years total. Thank God! Thank you Margaret for the barrel and weedeater suggestion for mulching the leaves! Had time to try it today. It's slow but it works great. The Bradford pear has finally dropped most of its leaves. It should be bare by the end of the week. We have had a wonderfully mild winter so far. Hoping for it to continue! Still not sure whether to go with the 3 inch sand or gravel base for the patio under the trees. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Good Gardening Matt in Norfolk, Virginia USDA zone 8 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com