Hi Penny, Thank you so much for all the information. I have mostly sloped beds where the shredded bark seems to be the most practical (though not so attractive) solution, but I do have a couple of smaller spots where I think the Buckwheat Hulls would be perfect. I am indeed in the DC area and I'll call around to see if anyone stocks it locally. I remember seeing cocoa bean hulls somewhere last year--they're supposed to smell like chocolate but I never tried them. Your large annual bed sounds absolutely lovely--it must be quite stunning! Kelly >Hello Kelly -- I am encouraged to try the sedum, and thank >you! > >I've been using the Buckwheat Hulls for many years. They come >from a factory in Penn Yan, NY, (Finger Lakes) where the flour is >manufactured. I don't think there is any other supplier. About >5 years ago there was a supply shortage, but I have not noticed >any problem since. I don't know why they inhibit weeds unless >3 inches of anything would do an equally good job ... My entire >property is irrigated from buried lines, and I strongly suspect >that this saves water, and helps to hold down weeds in general. > >I've forgotten the cost, Kelly - if it is important, I can make some >phone calls for you. They ought to be marketed nationwide, but I >am not sure. As it is, I am 350 miles from the source, so who knows? >Are you in D.C...? > >I lose a very little amount by summer's end from invisible sources, >which means that I occasionally find some hulls on the sidewalk next >to the elevated rose garden. I never have to weed in there, and >ordinary winds do not seem to disturb them. They do not mat together; >in other words I could run my fingers thru them even after a few >years, if I chose to. OTOH, if I am doing some serious rose pruning >in there, I may lose a few hulls when I finally rake up the debris. If >I wanted to carefully cut and drop each questionable poor leaf into >my pail, I would not ever have to rake, obviously, but that method is >just too slow for me. (My hubby rags me about this ....) In the end, >I don't even need one bag a year for replenishment -- and a bag is >like a stuffed pillow case in volume. > >For many years I used mini-hardwood bark on all my beds (and I do >have many) because it kept in the moisture and kept out the weeds. >Jimmie went crazy if I needed help with replacing a shrub, because >those pieces of bark were always imbedded in the soil, no matter how >I tried to rake them aside. He would end up flinging them to the >winds in a fit of temper, and that forced me to switch over to shredded >cedar for two reasons: most of my beds are slope-sided, so the bark >tended to slip down into the gullies and therewith would infuriate that >same husband no end, for he was compulsive about keeping the gullies >clear so rain could properly run down hill as designed. Add that >problem to his hatred of trying to dig a hole and hitting some bark >underneath, and the shredded cedar was the answer. Within one >season the cedar does mat, so it is ideal for slopes, moisture retention >and weed control. I just happen to feel that the old bark was much >prettier, but too bad, sigh ..... > >I chose the Buckwheat Hulls for the elevated rose garden because >they remained a beautiful dark brown, and their size is much more >appropriate for the location. Of course, they would never work on >my other beds which do have sloped sides. > >One more thing: I do have a fairly large annual flower bed, almost >flat in nature, and in there I have a routine: start with a clear and >clean bed. Lay out dozens upon dozens of annuals according to >height, and plant them, adding Osmocote underneath every single >seedling. Sprinkle (by hand) Preen around every single plant when >everything has been planted. Then add a shallow layer of Buckwheat >Hulls on top of the Preen. This bed gets irrigated from buried >Netafim lines underneath, which helps to keep down fungus. Aside >from having to walk in occasionally to deadhead, that bed is self >sustaining once planted. And most of the Hulls remain from year to >year, in spite of the new plantings. So once again, I do not need >much more each season, in this case perhaps one bag or less. That >bed is open on all four sides, measuring about 26 x 26 x 30 x 20. >It's actually shaped like a concert grand piano, and I border the >entire bed in blue ageratum to make that feature stand out. Works! > >You got me started on my favorite subject, didn't you...? ...<g>.... > >Penny, NY zone 6, but 32 degrees last night ..... > > > > >. > > > > >________________________________________________________________ >The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! >Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! >Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!