To distract us from the virus discussion.... I have a grapevine in my garden. It was there when I took over that garden space. It made a lot of grapes last year but this year it has produced only a few bunches. Is that typical of grapes or did I perhaps prune it incorrectly? Another grape question. I'm trying to identify the disease that appears on the leaves - both last year and this year. It looks like rust, but I have not found any documentation of a rust disease on grapes in my area - Southern California. My best guess is something called "measles" of all things. The leaves get reddish brown spots, that expand to eventually include much or all of the leaf. The leaf becomes dry and crispy. Perhap the color of the spots relates to the color of the grapes? The grapes have a pinkish color to them when ripe. All clues welcome! Jeanne -- I went to the butchers the other day and I bet him 50 bucks that he couldn't reach the meat off the top shelf. He said, "No bet, the steaks are too high."