I am all in favor of talking juicy tomatoes on the list. In fact, I think that's where this thread started before Chuck accused the writer of spreading what he chooses to call "terminator technology." I happen to disagree with RAFI, but I choose to ignore that discussion as an abortion-like discussion. The list-owner's suggestion to use a link to an article rather than repost the entire article seemed to me a good one. Linda Kuczwanski