Mr Wyatt I only plant a part package of pepper and tomato seeds so I can have more varieties. I sent my remaining seeds to UNH and had them tested there. They confirmed the diseases were seed borne. The plant diseases were confirmed by my County Agent. I may be a homegardener, but I use these folks for the data that I need. I lost 1/3 of my pepper and tomato crop 1 year out of 50 years of gardening. This was the one and only year I bought seeds from Totally Tomatoes. My normal crop loss is less than 2% Oh yes I lost 50% of my crop one year due to a late snow storm 24" of heavy wet stuff. I suppose that makes me a bad gardener also My current practice of buying seeds is, I look in the catalogs for the statement "All our seeds are treated for seed borne diseases" either hot water or chlorine AKA Georgia Treatment. or the statement "all our seeds are tested for seed borne diseases". If I really want a variety that is not, then I do my own treatment before I plant my seeds. I learned a lesson the hard way, My goal of this was to help some folks understand more about it and maybe preventing pulling up 2/3 grown plants and burning them, and not being able to plant for 2 or 3 years in that spot. There are quite a few seed borne diseases out there, and folks like you who distribute imported, untested seeds, help spread these diseases. While looking for that data on TMV, I found that there are more reported cases of TMV in Sweet Bells in Calif. than in the whole US tobacco crop. It would not surprise to see the day when we get an imported disease that wipes out everything. TomTMV is one of them that has started. As far as mink manure goes, I had a site from Nels Peterson explaining the stuff, Regretfully I lost the addy in a crash. I know the stuff is in very limited supply, and available to only a few Northern teir state gardeners. Byron