I went to one worm composting site, and they said that red worms will not live in the soil. If this is the case, how do the appropiate worms migrate into the compost..this is not a challenge, just a question? Also, I also do container gardening. Usually I use Miracle-gro and/or Osmocote. This season, I'm going totally organic, and I wanted to add good organic nutrients that won't burn the veggies. I figure, if I add worm compost, and some dry granular organic fertilizer, I'd be set for about 3 months....which might actually be less work than using the liquid fertilizers I have to drag around. I'm also using Vam Fungi to enhance the effect. Pete, South Florida, Zone 10 Who has some earthworms...but not that many -----Original Message----- From: owner-tomato@GlobalGarden.com [mailto:owner-tomato@GlobalGarden.com]On Behalf Of Richard Yarnell Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 12:41 PM To: Tomato@GlobalGarden.com Subject: Re: [tomato] worm castings (long) Would you please provide documentation for your statement that "these worms are not the ones .... We build both a composting system (The Stack^R) and a worm composter. We suggest that unless the gardener is beginning on a plot which has been sterilized, that the appropriate worms will seek out a properly managed compost pile. The worms which migrate into the pile as it cools are most assuredly appropriate to the task both in the compost pile and in the worm box. Granted, "night crawlers" are not the ones we're looking for even though they are what many folks visualize when they think of "worms." But the smaller red worms which multiply prodigiously and which are present in most areas of the US, do the job nicely. Properly fed, they will double in number every thirty days. I would also like to see some basis for your statement that worm castings are "better" than compost because they provide nutrition and act as a soil amendment. Action of the worms is one part of the composting process. Generally, worm castings are uniformly fine textured. Typical compost, even from a well managed rapid composting system, tends to produce a varied texture. If worms are set to work on a compost pile, they will moderate the texture but I'm unaware they add nutrition. On Wed, 19 Jan 2000, shan wrote: > Worm castings are great! I have a worm composting system (Can-O-Worms)in > my garage - they produce about one 15 -lb tray of castings in about 8 weeks > now, but when the garage temps get above 55 they'll give me about 15 lbs a > month. The castings are better than normal compost or fertilizer because > they provide both nutrients and soil amendment. They've never burned my > plants, even in containers. I do give my container plants additional > fertilizer. > These worms are not the same as the ones that till your garden soil. > Composting worms won't survive in your garden and normal earthworms from > your garden won't survive in the composting system. > Would I pay $10? I don't know - like regular compost, it sort of makes > more sense to produce it yourself. There are self-contained systems on the > market that are clean & small & don't smell for about $100, or you can make > your own. In many zones they can be kept outside in a shady area or in a > garage or basement. > I have url's for worm composting discussion boards, sites, etc. . . email > privately if you want them. > > -shan > email@example.com > > --------------- Richard Yarnell, SHAMBLES WORKSHOPS | No gimmick we try, no "scientific" Beavercreek, OR. Makers of fine | fix we attempt, will save our planet Wooden Canoes, The Stack(R) urban | until we reduce the population. Let's composter, fly tying benches | leave our kids a decent place to live.