Re: [tomato] Lost Everything

William McKay (
Thu, 06 Apr 2000 19:08:19 PDT

I too have an unheated greenhouse.  Have some tomatoes out there now and the 
past few evenings the temperature has gone below freezing.  So far, no 
problems.  Have a couple of suggestions.

1.  My unheated hoophouse traditionally has stayed about 2 degrees above the 
outside ambient temperature, especially this time of year when the 
temperature is cold.  I take that into consideration and also make it a 
habit to cover the plants with a double layer of remay cloth when I think it 
is going to get cold.  This morning, for example, there was ice in the 
bucket in the greenhouse, but the tomatoes were fine under the remay.  It 
seems to give me about five degrees of protection.

2.  I never water in the evening, especially this time of year.  You are 
asking for trouble.  If at all possible, water in the morning and allow 
things to dry off.  Prevents lots of disease problems.

Bill McKay in eastern massachusetts.

>From: Todd Panter <>
>To: Organic Garden List <OGL@LSV.UKY.EDU>,        Newsgroup Gardens 
><GARDENS@LSV.UKY.EDU>,        Master Garden List 
>"" <>
>Subject: [tomato] Lost Everything
>Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 16:31:09 -0500
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>Received: from [] by (3.2) with ESMTP id 
>MHotMailBAB4FDFF0028D82197B0D142740C056A0; Wed Apr 05 14:41:20 2000
>Received: (from majordomo@localhost)by (8.8.7/8.8.7) id 
>OAA20013for tomato-list; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 14:30:28 -0700
>Received: from ( [])by 
> (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA20007for 
><>; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 14:30:27 -0700
>Received: from ( 
>[])by (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id 
>e35LUES12599;Wed, 5 Apr 2000 16:30:15 -0500 (CDT)
>From Wed Apr 05 14:43:21 2000
>Message-ID: <>
>X-Sender: "Todd Panter" <> (Unverified)
>X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-gatewaynet  (Win98; I)
>X-Accept-Language: en
>Precedence: bulk
>I am not sure exactly what has happened here.  In about a week or so we
>were prepared to set out our tomato plants, (80 plants).  They all were
>looking good and about a foot tall growing inside the greenhouse.  Right
>before coming in last night I watered them all real good and closed the
>door to the greenhouse.  It dropped down to freezing last night and
>there was some frost on the ground outside.  While the greenhouse is not
>heated and certainly not airtight I just don't see how it could have
>gotten to them.  There is also a tray of pepper seedlings, (about 50)
>that were up about an inch that were not affected.  Now I will have to
>overnight some more seeds to make another quick start.  Any opinions out
>Todd Panter
>"Panter Organic Farm"

Get Your Private, Free Email at