Has anyone read this months' issue of Organic Gardening? There is a CH article. In a sidebar a guy named Craig Dremann claims that Southeast Asian peppers are usually twice as hot as habs. His testing method involves blending a weighed amount of peppers, deseeded in a weighed amount of water. Using the syringe add the mixture drop by drop into a weighed amount of tomato juice unitl you can detect the hotness of the pepper. He calls this the "hotness threshold". Claims that because habs have few seeds, and most test methods includes the seeds, the hab gets an advantage. Questions? Comments? Flames? Is this guy full of it or does he have a point. IMHO the hab is still hotter. The burn is more complex. I find most Asian hot peppers to be sharper. Bottom line, I don't get the endorphin rush with Thai hots that I get with Habs. Kevin Crooks csckec@terraworld.net Between stimulus and response, man has the freedom to choose.