Luke in Oz wrote ; and probably incurring the wrath of the neighbors on the EAST ISLAND , <g> ,(Aussie-Kiwi joke) the standard reply to this is probably unprintable and definitely should not be sent to the list . I got my first bottle of Waha Wera from the Fragrant Garden at Erina NSW Plug there for Bailesy , and got another couple of bottles for mates , I found it to have a slight fishy aftertaste and as such ended up using it in that application . This could have been the Kiwi fruit , AKA chinese Gooseberries which the Nz'ers have had Heaps of experience in sending to jPn as export for Yrs .IMHO the combination of kiwi fruit and Habs would be the cause ,the Manuka honey ,while very fragrant seems to have a final note after tasting . Having lived in the shakey Isles for a couple or more Yrs ,I feel semi Qualified to pass this Judgement . I think I sent a bottle to Either Lorraine or Jose , perhaps they could give a comment , I personaly found it relatively mild ,but then I had a holster with a bottle of daves and a bottle of Sontava which went better on the Hot dogs at the State Junior baseball carnival my son was Pitching in . On the Dogs , Well when I was a teenager i worked for the post Office as a Telegram boy -(remember Telegrams ?)-then as a Postman and found the Poodle crosses to be the most dangerous dogs -you never saw them ,Till they bit . Also had a Rottweiler for 2 yrs ,showed and did well till he was Baited , know who did it but can't prove it ,will never happen again . Learnt some tricks from an Ex Czech Army Dog Handler(ret) and will end up getting 2 bitches as Stud dogs are miles to much trouble ! Luke in Oz