As another new member ( bio to come ) I can say your about 1 month too late to start most of the hot peppers from seeds, and about 2 months late to get a decent crop of Habarno's. I'm in the Barrie, Ontario area ( about 50 miles north of Toronto, which puts me a little north of you ) which is considered Zone 5. In my area, Habarno's are started indoors at the end of January, and even then there are still a lot of green ones come September frost. As for sources, I originally ordered by mail through Stokes seeds, I believe they have an outlet in Rochester, N.Y. I've given up on them as all of their pepper seeds are treated with a fungicide. I have been ordering my seeds through Seeds Blum in Idaho, which carry a very full line of heirloom peppers, though I'm sure there are many specialty pepper sources the rest of the list will be glad to share. -----Original Message----- From: Barbarian [SMTP:brbarian@tezcat.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 1998 1:27 PM To: Chile-heads Mailing List Subject: [CH] What to plant? Hi fellow Chile-heads! I'm new to this list, having just subscribed Sunday night, but I've been delighting in the world of peppers and chiles for quite a few years now. This year, I've decided to grow my own. I've read over the pepper gardening FAQ on the Chile-head website, so I've got a pretty good idea of how to go about this, but I'm left wondering what peppers would be best for my growing area. (Chicago, IL.) I'd really like to grow some habs and some cayenne, but want to make sure that they will grow properly (ie, full, healthy and HOT!) around here. An additional concern for me is what's the yeild on a single plant? I don't have a lot of room to work with, so I'm trying to make a balance between peppers and some other vegetables I want to grow. I can always dry/roast extras, but I want to make sure I'm not planting too few. Also welcomed would be a source for pepper seeds/seedlings in the Chicago area. So far the 'garden stores' I've checked in have smiled happily and pointed me to bell peppers. I'm not knocking bell peppers, but that's not quite what I'm looking for, thank you! Ok, that should be enough information to get me started! Thank you and I'll look forward to hearing from you all about this. Barbarian - The Founder of the Barbarian Illuminati "Surely, comrades... there is no one among you who wants to see Jones come back?" Visit Vinland - http://www.tezcat.com/~brbarian/index.html