I've seen a set up in the Lee Valley Garden Catalogue that I believe uses a very high powered halogen light source. The picture shows the light about 6 ft ( yes feet ) above the plants, and there are a lot of plants under there. This setup was not cheap, so I put it on the 'to buy when I win the lottery list' and went back to my flourescents. -----Original Message----- From: Schoenbacher, Anton [SMTP:Anton.Schoenbacher@wwireless.com] Sent: Friday, April 17, 1998 12:22 PM To: chile-heads@globalgarden.com Subject: [CH] What R these ? [Gil White] Snip How do you know when a pepper which is supposed to be green is ripe ? [Gil White] a little bite that can be blamed on insects ?? One last question, I'm considering starting to use some type of high pressure grow light (I'm sick of setting up a bunch of flourescents). Does anyone know if you need to keep plants close to those things ? Like they say keep your plants no less than 2" from your lights or they get spindley, does this apply to big lights ? --Anton--