Peeps, Another way to control application of an herbicide like Roundup is the "wand" method - instead of spraying, you touch the plants with something moistened in the herbicide. Farmers do this to remove tall volunteer corn plants from soybean fields, for example. One advantage to this is that wind has no effect on the application, unlike sprays. (One thing you can do to minimize wind drift is keep the pressure low and the spray droplets larger and coarser. Puffy mist can travel a long way.) When I was on the landscape maintenance crew at Ohio State University, I wore a rubber glove with a cloth glove over it. I would wet the glove and fondle the plants I wanted to remove. I called it the Dab of Doom. You could wrap a broomstick in an old towel or something like that. Thank you, Chile Woman, thank you Cardinal Begg, the plants you gave me are all in the ground (except for these last two cute ruffly little habs). Today I can relax, and watch he rain come in. Gonna be a lot of new varieties this year; I wonder what the salsa making season will be like. Alex Silbajoris 72163.1353@compuserve.com Sore knees