> -----Original Message----- > From: MOORE John > Sent: Monday, November 30, 1998 11:46 AM > To: 'Peter Moss' > Subject: RE: [CH] Chile Birds > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Moss [SMTP:pmoss@yoda.alt.za] > Sent: Saturday, November 28, 1998 10:10 AM > To: Chile-Heads@globalgarden.com; Brent Thompson > Subject: RE: [CH] Chile Birds > > >Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 11:51:09 +1100 > >From: MOORE John <MOOREJ@atea.mat.army.defence.gov.au> > >Subject: RE: [CH] Chile Birds > > >> So how many "wild" varieties do you grow, which is more to the > >> point. Please name a wild variety that does not have erect > >> fruit. > > > C. cardenasii, for one. Tiny, extremely hot and pendant > > fruit. > > John I checked the USDA data base and they only have two > specimens of C. cardenasii. PI573336 and PI590507. > Unfortunately fruit position is not entered but DeWitt, Bosland > - Peppers of the World shows a picture of PI573336 - C. > cardenasii. The fruit most certainly is erect. Therefore C. > cardenasii does have a wild erect form. > > The seed distribution channel for wild species and varieties is > birds. Fruit hiding under leaves will not attract the means of > propagation and would probably indicate a cultivated variety. > > Some of the indicators for a wild species or variety is erect > fruit position and fruit that is easily separated from the > plant. > > Brent please feel free to jump in here anytime and correct and/or > expand on this thread. > > Looking forward to the harvest > > [>] > > > > > I'm afraid I'm really at the limit of my knowledge here. My > cardenasii fruit (seeds from Brent T.) are pendant, plus very easily > separated from the plant (if you really want to eat one you have to be > attentive, because the tiny ripe fruit will simply drop to the ground > instead of ripening on the plant). Is there a cultivated variety of > C. cardenasii? I don't see much point in growing it, except as a > curiosity (although maybe it does better in its native climes). > > > JM in SE Oz > (where the snails ate one of my two Aji Escabeche seedlings last > night, the bastards)