Margaret Lauterback Maybe you think Jerry Bakers stuff is crazy, but put yourself in my shoes. In 1995 I had 127 bugs listed in Rodels Handbook of Garden Insects Plus 1 that Rodel and the USDA could not identify. I was spraying so much Malithion, Diazinon, Methoxichlor and Sevin that it was burning my plants. with no relief. Some seeds would not even poke thru the ground because of seed maggots. My carrots and parsnips would only grow a 5 or 6 inch tops because of aphids. In 1996 I switched the Jerry Bakers bug spray. In 1998 I found 1 Spotted Cucumber beetle, 1 European corn borer, 6 Japanese Beetles, a handful of grasshoppers. Instead of Rodale's way, I am now planting 16 feet of row to get enough beans instead of 100 ft of crop. I got 2 1/2 in by 9" carrots, Parsnips 4 ½ dia by 2 feet long. I get more than enough tomatoes out of 6 instead of planting 24 to get enough. I now plant 10 Sweet bells instead of 30 to get enough And speaking of cockamamie ideas, Rodale's idea of handpicking aphids off plants is stupid, If it takes 10 hours to pick aphids off 1 pepper plant what are you going to do for the rest of your garden. ?? Washing aphids off with water ?? Their back as soon as they dry off, Even try to catch a Squash vine borer or a cabbage worm butterfly ?? Thats stupiditous maximus Someone in Organic Gardening said you can kill wireworm with 5 handfulls of wood ash in 5 gal of water to cover 5 sq feet. By the time you do that you change the soil ph from 6.5 to 8. So alkaline the plants die Rodale's idea and organic gardening boils down to this Plant One for the Cutworm One for the Crow One to Die One to grow I do not have to room Another thing I find with organic gardening books and articles, if they don't have a half-assed method of control they will not acknowledge that that type of bug exists. I have tried most of them. I am not professing to be an expert, I just have had my hands in the soil for 50 years and I know what "Works for Me" There are 138 different garden bugs, in the Northeast, that attack veggie gardens.Rodales acknowleges 127 Here's an example, find in any organic publication a mention of a "Twig Pruner" I had some Habanero's attacked by these bugs, the bug damage was confirmed by my County Agent.. There is no listed chemical controls These bugs normally attack young Oaks and Popular Excuse me as far as I am concerned Jerry Bakers Tobacco Juice formula has work the best for me since DDT was banned. and I will continue to use until I run into problems with it. "Illigitimous non Carborundum" Byron