Byron, I understand your frustration! I have been there and done that myself. We moved to Virginia in '79 from Maryland. The country home was beautiful! But nothing would grow well; the insects and/or rodents eat or killed over 2/3 of any crop we planted. The part of the crops we did save were of poor quality and small size. The rebuilding of soil ecology takes TIME (years). The problem did not come in one season and can not be fixed in one season. Most parts of the east coast have been farmed to death for 200 years. It has now become almost impossible to produce any crop with out adding nutriments. The soil is simply depleted. The point in all this is to encourage you, or anybody else, not to give up on good grading practices just because there are major problems in your garden. It will take many years to "fix" what you describe. Continue to add more to the soil then you take out with compost and green manure crops each and every year. Spray when you must for large infestations with the least harmful chemicals available to you. Rotate crops so the bugs don't come back year after year for the same feast you have prepared for them. Change to a different crop if the bugs have a great taste for it. Also remember that what you or I see in our back yards may not be typical for many other folks. Telling others they will need gallons of spray to control pest there garden in not accurate. Steve >Put yourself in my shoes for 1 minute, look at a 20 by 80 ft garden >that you can not pick or pull 1 single veggie out of that garden to eat. >because of bugs. All you see is dead and dying plants >Thats a lot of work for nothing. > >What would you do ??? > >When you have "Been there and Done that" let me know ======================================================= Uncle Steve's HOT Stuff, Home of world's hottest Chiles http://www.zyworld.com/snearman/Uncle-Steve-Home.htm =======================================================