Andy B wrote: My neighbor's dog ( This approach only works in dry weather. I ran a through the shrubbery, being careful that it didn't get grounded. Inside, I rigged an auto spark-coil to run continuously when turned on, as if it were running in the auto, grounded the case, and attached the fine wire. (The driver for an electric cattle fence should also work well.) ************* Luke wrote Take care with this method, about 23-24 years ago in the sleepy little village of Kingcliff NSW the Local Ambulance station had a similar problem and the Senior officer Alby Benstead rigged a device as mentioned above. Problem was a Lady walking to the shops with her 5-6 year son who needed to relieve himself, said be quick and just go against the wall of the ambulance station............ Alby was spoken to rather sternly by the local Police who were just next door. This actually constitutes a MAN TRAP... I do believe the young lad in question never fell for the old "lets see if you can pee over the fence when visiting his relations on the farm", as did many a city boy.. Luke in Oz