OK - I tend to let everyone say their "peas" without commenting - But on this occason I have to rant. I toss my seeds in the tray, put them under a cheap shoplight and plant the little buggers a month later in the garden. I snuggle up to them each day and make sure they get plenty of water and occasionally some MiracleGro. One of the reasons I grow Chiles is because its cheaper than buying them. If I were to buy a pH meter, moisture meter etc. - it would no longer be cheaper for me and I might as well grow cukes for canning. I've never tested the pH and in fact haven't even had my soil analyzed by the local ag agency. But I grow more peppers than I can use, so why should I go more hi tech? I garden for fun and when it stops being fun for me, I'll quit. Not everyone feels the need to measure, record and analyse. Hell - usually I don't manage to keep track of which peppers I planted where! Well that's my rant - thank you for your time - Signe "lazy as all get out" Shivers