I'm well north of you,with early frost in mid september ( Zone 5b ) and have got descent crops of serrano's. Maybe only 1/4 ripen to a bright red, but the green one's are great in sauces. I've also got haberno's ripe, by starting the seeds real early indoors. Not every one, but enough to justify growing them. Gil -----Original Message----- From: owner-chile-heads@globalgarden.com [mailto:owner-chile-heads@globalgarden.com] On Behalf Of Brad Lewis Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 1998 4:32 PM To: Peter Moss Cc: Chile-Heads@globalgarden.com Subject: Re: [CH] Winter Hi Peter! Actually, I do have some of the other species of peppers. The problem is that the C Annuums are the only ones that bear fruit quick enough - last year half the Baccatums (sp?) didn't even get fruit on them before the frosts hit. I do get some of the other species of peppers, later in the season, but not that many. Here in PA the growing season is over by October, even using plastic sheeting to cover the peppers at night- it's just too cold and dismal to go much later. And the plants don't go in the ground before May. SNIP AIN'T SUMMER GRAND???? Brad