I have five Red Savinas from Shepherd's seed and they are producing very consistently. They are the largest of my plants which include Jalapeņo, Thai Dragon, Orange Habs, Super Chiles, Tabascos, etc.....with the exception of the overwintered Serranos. BTW, this is the first year I've grown Shipkas/Bulgarian Carrot chiles. The first one ripened to that wonderful, deep orange yesterday so, after work, I picked it and ate it out of hand. What an experience! The chile was soooo sweet with a delicate, almost floral flavor to it not to mention a quite respectable heat. After more of them ripen I might try my hand at some preserves. Any good chile preserve recipes out there? In Chiles, Doug ************************************************************* * For the sake of tolerance do we tolerate the intolerable? * *************************************************************