All, I cut off the savinas at 280-lb. If you want some, try Allen, Andrew or me. The following cc gets you up-to-this-minute: Subject: Savina Thing Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 13:25:16 -0700 From: Art Pierce <pierces@cruzio.com> To: DAVID PLOTNIKOFF <plotnikoff@sjmercury.com> David, Just now talked (12:30pm, Sept. 28th) to Mary Garcia at GNS Spices and cut our order off at 28 10-lb. boxes. She requests that you DO NOT publish her phone number(s).<<<< "We're wholesalers and the only reason we did it with you<<<<<<< is because of the tradition with Rob."<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< She is going to fax me a release which says "I will not use the seeds for growing." They license "many growers" but only for growing red savinas "for use in that licensed grower's PRODUCTS." The rest of this exhaustive stuff below brings you up to date as of now (when I did the 280# cut-off). Scott & Rob & Andrew are good "connected and caring" info sources for peppers stuff. For growing (anything), Orin Martin, Garden Manager (Alan Chadwick Garden), Center for Agroecology and Sustainable Food Systems is the best local source. He is a wonderful guy but Luddite, so affects (IMHO) NO email. You can almost reach him by phone (831) 459-2321 or by email to associates with the same phone number: http://zzyx.ucsc.edu/casfs/stafflist.html or by snailmail: CASFS 1156 High St. Santa Cruz, CA 95064-1077 (831) 459-4140 http://www.mapblast.com/mapblast/blast.hm?CMD=GEO&xx=1&AD2=1156+High+St.&AD3=Santa+Cruz%2C+CA+95064&IC=%3A%3A8&IC%3A= http://zzyx.ucsc.edu/casfs/ I'm going to pick up on Friday. Thanks, Art ~~~ Art Pierce <pierces@cruzio.com> 714 Almond Drive Watsonville, CA 95076-3604 1-(831)-724-7204 Pick it up at Grey Bears in Santa Cruz, Dave's Hotluck in SF or somewhere else that's convenient. Art ~~~ Leigh Ann, Jason, Scott, Chipotle Coyote, Dave, Andrew, Rob, Jon Bela, and now, Karen Total: 280# Frank & Mary Garcia GNS Spices Walnut CA 91789 1 (800)-870-6657 1 (909)-594-9505 The Roadside Stand 1 (909)-598-9555 Home http://www.mapblast.com/mapblast/blast.hm?CMD=MAP&GC=X%3A-117.8548%7CY%3A34.018%7CLT%3A34.018%7CLN%3A-117.8548%7CLS%3A300000%7Cc%3AWalnut%7Cs%3ACA%7Cz%3A91789%7Cd%3A803%7Cp%3AUSA&LV=6&IC=34.018%3A-117.8548&IC=8&IC%3A=&IC=%3A%3A%3A%3A%3A%3A%3A&GAD2=&GAD3=Walnut%2C+CA++91789&W=425&H=250&MA=1&zoom.x=28&zoom.y=97 I just called Mary Garcia at 4:08 pm Sept. 27th. They have 80 acres of red savinas. At 18 inch spacing in rows 3 feet apart, that's 774,400 plants yielding 1 to 3 lb. each or about $1.5 to $4.5 million gross. Since our 280 lb. is only about 1/3000th to 1/9000th of their savina business, so we're very minor customers. Mary will accept only a SINGLE money order or cashier's check to GNS Spices FOR THE FULL AMOUNT so I can give it to Driscoll when I pickup in Oxnard. Driscoll Farmers' Coop 3939 East Hueneme Road, Oxnard, CA 93033-8216 1-(805)-488-0333. http://www.mapblast.com/mapblast/blast.hm?CMD=MAP&GC=X%3A-119.09659%7CY%3A34.14703%7CLT%3A34.14703%7CLN%3A-119.09659%7CLS%3A20000%7Cc%3AOxnard%7Cs%3ACA%7Cz%3A93033%7Cd%3A803%7Cp%3AUSA&LV=3&IC=34.14703%3A-119.09659&IC=8&IC%3A=&IC=%3A%3A%3A%3A%3A%3A%3A&GAD2=3939+E+Hueneme+Rd&GAD3=Oxnard%2C+CA++93033-8216&W=425&H=250&MA=1&zoom.x=35&zoom.y=147 ~~~ Orders: 5# "C. Jason Mancebo" <jmancebo@sirius.com> sez Tel:??? Sending check for $11.25 75 # "Ashkenaz, Scott" <Scott.Ashkenaz@kla-tencor.com> sez 2135 Columbia St. Palo Alto, CA 94306-1233 1-(650) 493-5110 http://www.mapblast.com/mapblast/blast.hm?CMD=GEO&xx=1&AD2=2135+Columbia+St.&AD3=Palo+Alto%2C+CA+&IC=%3A%3A8&IC%3A= Sent check for $168.75 Running total: $180 70# Debbie & Jack Curry The Prince of Wales Pub 106 E 25th Ave. San Mateo, CA 94403-2351 1 (650) 349-1826 - they don't have email http://www.mapblast.com/mapblast/blast.hm?CMD=GEO&xx=1&AD2=106+E.+25th+Ave.&AD3=San+Mateo%2C+CA+&IC=%3A%3A8&IC%3A= They need delivery at home as early as possible on Sunday, Oct. 4th. since they're going on a long ship cruise 4PM that day. Home: 3000 Flores St. San Mateo, CA 94403-3320 http://www.mapblast.com/mapblast/blast.hm?CMD=GEO&xx=1&AD2=3000+Flores+St.&AD3=San+Mateo%2C+CA+&IC=%3A%3A8&IC%3A= Sent check for $160 Running total: $340 10# Dave Gomberg <gomberg@wcf.com> 7 Gateview Court San Francisco CA 94116-1941 1-(415)-731 7793 http://www.mapblast.com/mapblast/blast.hm?CMD=GEO&xx=1&AD2=7+Gateview+Court&AD3=San+Francisco%2C+CA+94116-1941&IC=%3A%3A8&IC%3A= Sunday, Oct 4th HotLuck, Sending check for $60 Running total: $400 5# Allen Pierce <allen_pierce@hotmail.com> 937 Freedom Blvd., #102 Watsonville, CA 95076-3804 1-(831)-763-1661 http://www.mapblast.com/mapblast/blast.hm?CMD=GEO&xx=1&AD2=937+Freedom+Blvd&AD3=Watsonville%2C+CA&IC=%3A%3A8&IC%3A= Will bring by $11.25 cash. Running total: $411.25 10# Art Pierce <pierces@cruzio.com> 714 Almond Drive Watsonville, CA 95076-3604 1-(831)-724-7204 $20 Running total: $431.25 20# Andrew Gaines <andrew@chilenet.com> 1-(831)-761-5818 Dropping by check for $50 Running total: $481.25 50# Rob and Joni Rayment <rrayment@interserv.com> , 3683 Tunis Ave. San Jose, CA 95132-1365 1-(408)-263-6392 http://www.mapblast.com/mapblast/blast.hm?CMD=GEO&xx=1&AD2=3683+Tunis+Ave.&AD3=San+Jose%2C+CA&IC=%3A%3A8&IC%3A= Sending check for $100 Running total: $581.25 (Hooray!, this clinches it.) 10 # Leigh Ann Hussey <leighann@sybase.com> (510) 849-1970 Sending check for $22.50 Running total: $603.75 10# Karen Milne <kmilne@stardust.com> Stardust Forums (near the old DMV) 1901 Bascom Ave., Suite #333 Campbell, CA 95008 1 (408)-879-8080 http://www.mapblast.com/mapblast/blast.hm?CMD=GEO&xx=1&AD2=1901+Bascom+Ave.%2C++Suite+%23333&AD3=Campbell%2C+CA+95008++&IC=%3A%3A8&IC%3A= Sending check for $22.50 Running total: $626.25 ~~~ The following three people are included in the pickup at Oxnard but need to get in contact re: $ & where they'll pickup: 10# Chipotle Coyote <coyote@calweb.com> sez Tel:??? Still need to hear from you!!!! 10# Jon Ziegler <jonz@netcom.com> Tel:??? Still need to hear from you!!!! 2# Bela Lubkin <belal@sco.com> Tel:??? Still need to hear from you!!!! ~~~ Then I'll show you the gas receipts when you pick up your peppers: Round trip is 621.6 miles [no extra charge beyond this for getting the savinas at Dave's HotLuck, since I'm going up there anyway]. http://www.mapblast.com/mapblast/preboth.hm?FAM=mapblast&CMD=WEBPATH&pre=1&DGAD2=3939+E+Hueneme+Rd&DGAD3=Oxnard%2C+CA++93033-8216&OIC=%3A&OIC=680&OIC%3A=&OAD2=2710+Chanticleer&OAD3=Santa+Cruz%2C+CA+95065&DIC=34.14703%3A-119.09659&DIC=8&DIC=&PDU=MI&PCT=EASY&SEC=preboth Also, Rob says allow for 7# total shrinkage in 25 10-lb boxes. My '83 Toyota pickup gets at least 18 mpg (unloaded) 621.6/~18 = ~36 gallons 36 gallons at $1.50/gallon (or less) = $54 $54.00/280# = $0.20/# extra So pepper should be Garcia's $2/# + $0.25/# = $2.25/lb Any "profits" I'll donate to Grey Bears. ~~~ Pick-up points: Dave's HotLuck (see above) or Grey Bears' cooler 2710 Chanticleer Ave. Santa Cruz, CA 95065-1812 http://www.mapblast.com/mapblast/blast.hm?CMD=GEO&xx=1&AD2=2710+Chanticleer&AD3=Santa+Cruz%2C+CA+95065&IC=%3A%3A8&IC%3A= Thanks, Art Pierce