Try http://www.labs.net/dmccormick/huen.htm http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/1940/ http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/food_wn.html http://www.motorworks.co.uk/town/lane/kal69/recent.htm http://www.panix.com/~nexus/cooking/ Gary Allen wrote: > While chiles do not figure in medieval cooking (for obvious historical > reasons), a couple of CHs responded to the recent thread, posting it to the > entire list. Assuming we're all interested in cooking (well, DUH!), I will > risk the wrath of CH-purists and try to answer their questions. (if this > bothers anyone, let me know, off-list, and I will cease and desist > participating in such off-topic discussions). > > Rain wrote: > >They also spiced things heavily, I'm told, to cover up the taste of > >the imperfect preservation of a lot of their meat, and perhaps to keep > >meats from going further off. > > Most of us would agree that we choose to eat spicy foods because we like > them, not because we have to. It is somewhat insensitive of us to assume > that people who lived in the middle ages were less interested in their food > than we are. The assumption that they ate badly preserved meat disregards > some fundamental features of the medieval diet. > > First, meat was rarely eaten by the common folk. They did have meat on > special feast days or when they could obtain small game (large game was > reserved for the nobility -- and poaching was often punishable by death). > Small game was less subject to spoilage, as it was eaten all at once. The > few times the poor could get get meat from larger animals, the meat would > be eaten together with extended families or even the whole community. > Medieval peasants led a life of feast and famine -- and tended to eat > everything that was available, when it was available. No leftovers to > spoil. The poor would never have had access to spices, anyway -- so we need > to look at the eating habits of the wealthy. > > The rich could have meat anytime -- indeed, the highest ranking individuals > would rarely eat anything but meat (in some ways the eating of meat was one > of the things that defined status -- just as the consumption of costly > spices did). The middle ages did not have much of a middle class -- > capitalism was just beginning to develop -- so most wealthy individuals > tended to be part of the nobility. Mealtime in their courts was a metaphor > for their social structure. Vast amounts of food were prepared and served > to the ranking personages first. Whatever was left over was fed to the next > group below them, and again to the next lower ranked group, until everyone > in the court (including the servants) were fed. The meat they ate was fresh > -- and again, no left-overs to spoil. > > Recent research has pointed out the connection between consumption of > spices and reduced risk of food poisoning -- but the research was focussed > on cultures in hot climates, where spoilage occurs rapidly. Medieval > England was not then, nor is it now, blessed with a tropical climate. > Spices preserved social structures, not food, in northern medieval times. > To test this idea, consider the following: > > The New World was discovered, by accident, as a result of the medieval > preoccupation with spices. Europe had long been held, economically, hostage > to Islamic traders who kept the routes to spice-bearing places > well-guarded, in both senses: they were secret and militarily defended. The > motivating force behind the Age of Exploration was an attempt to break that > Eastern cartel's grip on the spice market. Once they were successful, the > price of spices plummeted. Former luxuries became cheap commodities. In > becoming democratized (in the sense that anyone could now afford them), > spices lost most of their value as status symbols. As a result, European > cooking dropped its heavily-spiced style of cooking in favor of a cuisine > that emphasized the original flavors of the main ingredients. > > The fact that the medieval penchant for highly spiced foods was abandoned, > some 400 years before refrigeration was invented, would seem to invalidate > the idea that spices were used to cover the taste of rotting meat. > > Chipotle Coyote wrote: > >I recall reading that in Medieval cooking the use of sweeting (through > >fruits I would imagine) in main dishes was much more common than it is > >today. Can you verify that? > > Yes -- the medieval palate craved sweetness, and indulged it whenever it > could. The distinct boundary between sweet and savory that characterizes > British ideas about eating today (and, to some extent, is still observed in > the American diet) did not exist in the Middle Ages. Cane sugar was > obtained from the same Arabic merchants who delivered spices. It, too, was > precious -- and its place in the diet was much the same as that of spices. > Fruits were, as you suggest, commonly combined with meats. > > When sugar became a cheap commodity (due to the slave-powered plantations > in the Caribbean), like spices, it began to take a less prominent place in > the diet of the wealthy. > > This, to us, odd combination of sweet accompaniments with meat is a > throw-back to medieval eating habits. When are food traditions most > carefully observed today? When are we least likely to alter the eating > habits of our ancient forbears? On important occasions, when we celebrate > old rituals. No one ever wants to change a thing about the Thanksgiving > dinners they have eaten since their youth. The roasted Thanksgiving turkey > -- served with cranberries -- and possibly sweetened yams -- is a perfect > example. Remember, also, that first Thanksgiving was closer to the Middle > Ages than to our times -- and eating habits changed more slowly then than > they do today. > > According to Lévi-Strauss, roasted meats are always eaten on special > occasions, or when a show of status is required. In western tradition, only > roasted meats are normally served with a sweet: leg of lamb with mint > jelly, glazed ham with pineapple, or roast duck with orange or cherry > sauce. While they are not always holiday meals, they are generally reserved > for special occasions. > > Much of this is changing, now that eating customs from around the world are > influencing our diet. We traditionally keep the sweet for last (except as > noted above) -- but the Chinese, for example, try to keep a balance between > the four tastes in each course. A dish like Sweet and Sour Shrimp reflects > a totally different conception of the function of ingredients and flavors > than almost anything in western gastronomy -- at least since the end of the > Middle Ages. > > Gary > ("Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something." Last words of > Pancho Villa)