>>>>> "Rob" == NL01 <Pieters> writes: Rob> Kristoffer is absolutely right on the yeast thing, as a wine Rob> maker too I can verify that letting the wild east doing the Rob> job will normally not give the result your looking for. Well, we're not making wine! Now, I bake sourdough, which I imagine is somewhat more germane to the subject of sauerkraut. Sourdough starters use the wild yeast and lacto-bacilli that occur in the flour that you use and in your environment. They maintain a symbiotic relationship that prevents the growth of anything nasty. You have to try pretty hard to spoil a starter. When making wine, you generally want to avoid that sour taste, so you need to kill of anything that produces acid. So you use the sulfur stuff, or cook your grapes, or use concentrates. If you use wild yeast, it may taste like shit, but it won't harm you if it's built up enough alcohol or acid. With sauerkraut, you're not really interested in alcohol, so you add salt, which preferentially hinders the yeast growth, allowing the bacteria to make it sour. -- Tony Lill, Tony.Lill@AJLC.Waterloo.ON.CA President, A. J. Lill Consultants fax/data (519) 650 3571 539 Grand Valley Dr., Cambridge, Ont. N3H 2S2 (519) 241 2461 --------------- http://www.ajlc.waterloo.on.ca/ ---------------- "Welcome to All Things UNIX, where if it's not UNIX, it's CRAP!"