You can make a substitute for buttermilk by adding a teaspoon of lemon juice to each cup of whole milk, stir well and let sit in fridge for 30minutes or so. -- Andie Paysinger & the PENDRAGON Basenjis,Teafer,Cheesy,Singer & Player asenji@earthlink.net So. Calif. USA "In the face of adversity, be patient, in the face of a basenji, be prudent, be canny, be on your guard!" http://home.earthlink.net/~asenji/