In a message dated 3/00 8:51:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, Byron.Bromley@gsd-co.com writes: << If you are looking for bug/disease help on this forum. remember it is an open forum for organic/chemical controls. If you desire an organic control only state it up front. I could save some flame wars. Byron >> Beer for the bugs: I usually invite the bugs over for drinks. I'm a generous host, providing far more intoxicating fluids than my guests expect. Pie plates of beer for the slugs, whether I've seen any or not; a spray of flat CokeClassic, dishsoap, castor oil, and beer for the ground between the plants (a sticky mess to be sure); a plant spray (modified from the Home Brewed pest control site) of three or more chile peppers, ground together with three large onions and one whole bunch of garlic. Cover mash with water, add a tablespoon of salt, and place in a covered container with a few drops of Ivory soap. Let container stand overnight. Strain mixture through cheesecloth or a fine strainer and add enough flat CokeClassic, flat beer, and water to make a gallon of spray. Drink the Coke and or beer that is not flat, but leave out the salt, castor oil, and soap. Gareth the BeerBomb ChileKnight