I don't post too much around here, but read constantly, and would like to add my 2 cents on this issue. What you're stating is the main reason I make it a point to *not* go to K-Mart, Target, Walmart, etc, etc, ad nauseum... Support you local stores! B Margaret Lauterbach <melauter@earthlink.net> wrote: > > I've heard the same story from inventors of useful products. How in bloody > hell do people get their inventions or products on the market? You have to > be rich to start with. My friend was charged $100 a month or something > like that for hanging space near the cash registers at KMart. And Sears > ordered a thousand electric heaters from him, saying up front they wouldn't > pay him for six months. Just think of the alternative products out there > that can't get a place on the shelves, but you'd like much better than what > they do have. This is the contorted view of competition that retailers and > wholesalers know and love. It ain't what they teach in schools.. But I > think they'll sing a different tune when online sales begin to hurt > them.Margaret L > > Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 17:25:21 -0500 > From: "wildpepper.com" <jim@wildpepper.com> > Subject: Re: [CH] $$$ > Hooray for you Peter! > Sorry to jump on this one late, but I've been out of town for the > weekend. A post on that later.... > Another thing that happens is that the larger retailers demand something > they call a 'slotting fee' (we would call it 'extortion') for those > prime shelf locations. When, as a small producer, I approach them about > placing my stuff in their stores, they typically ask 'how much do you > believe in your prodcut?' That's their lead-in for demanding money up > front for shelf space. That's only the start.... > Another racket that causes me to charge way more than I would like to is > that most large retailers also work it like a giant consignment sale. > For instance, they order a pallet of sauce from me. I pay to produce it > & ship it to their warehouse. Do they pay for it yet? Not on your > life! They don't even claim ownership of it yet for if their 'top gun > fork truck jockey' sticks the forks throuh the pallet, I'm commanded to > remove the damaged product and replace it- at MY expense!! > Yet another ploy used by retailers and distributors is to (in addition > to everything else) assess an 'advertising fee' or 'promotion fee'. It > goes like this: we're going to proudly feature your sauce in our > upcoming newspaper insert since Cinco de Mayo is approaching. Oh, BTW, > if you want us to feature yours, instead of brand X, you need to pay us > to cover the cost of the advertising AND since it is on sale, you need > to lower your price to us. > It goes on and on..... > As Peggy also mentioned, economy of scale comes into play as well. I'm > You also have to remember that I don't see as much as HALF of that $7 > you are charged either! Most all retailers calculate they need a 50% to > 70% mark up to cover their costs (utilites, rent, labor, samples, taxes, > etc). Distributors most often request a 20% mark up and wholesalers at > least 10%. > - -Jim C > Mild to Wild > > __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/