<< Now giant specimens have apparently been put on sale at markets in Beijing and Shanghai. A Chinese newspeper reports that a tomato from one farm weighed 28oz. >> sounds like a typical Heirloom tomato to me, actually a tad small! Mary-Anne, List Owner TomatoMania-subscribe@YahooGroups.com Moderator HeirloomGardening-subscribe@YahooGroups.com San Francisco Bay Area 25 miles East of SF USDA Zone 9b Heat Zone 7 Sunset Zone 14/15 "Who plants the seed beneath the sod, and waits to see, believes in God."