People's pets shouldn't be allowed to roam in the city, I agree100%. But shooting them is needless, cruel and (in most places) illegal. And boasting about it is, IMHO, kind of puerile. Anyway, a plain old water hose works fine if they're really causing problems as opposed to just annoying cat-haters. As for shooting wild birds for eating cherries, that's life, or more accurately, Life. Cherries and other small fruits are many birds' natural primary food; the ecosystem has worked like that for about as long as there've been birds and fruit. You figure you can change it by force? For that matter, you figure you're supposed to? Sure hope nobody shoots you for eating whatever it is _you_ eat. And then brags about it in public. Rain @@@@ \\\\\\ ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.