Tony Flynn wrote: > ... Sorry if this is a bit off topic but the point I am trying to make is that > > uncontrolled animals can be more than just a nuisance. > > Tony Flynn > Grandad. Retired at the beach. Bay of Plenty. New Zealand A wise final thought on the subject. And one applicable to many situations. Inner city, restless youth come to mind. Better we should post recipes for them, and preferred caliber of deterrents, IMHO. This would have the potential added benefits of reducing insurance premiums, and increasing tourism in those types of areas. -- Erich C-H # 2099 Silver Glen American Shorthairs www.worzellaphoto.com/pets/index.htm