Neale Thank you for your input on the Dave's sauces, I now think I am willing to try the other two. I did not mean to sound as if I were 'knocking' all of his sauces because I had only tasted the Reserve. Do you think it would be safe to say that in creating the Reserve, Dave was going more for the scovie count than the taste factor? Yvonne in sunny Georgia I just want to have my 2 c on the Dave's debate. Neale Fireworks Foods www.fireworksfoods.com.au