Chile Heads, Thanks for the help with the recipe title. I have an Irish marinade for cross-rib roasts using the Italian tenderloin process (without salt) that I cook slowly and then slice for sandwiches. It's delicious. Will try these spices on my next tenderloin, but... plan cook it briefly, fifteen or twenty minutes. I've used MACs since 1989; love them. In fact, I bought my grandchildren iMacs to get them started on the true and righteous path. Don't know if it's help their cooking expertise; I think that comes from my kids being great cooks! Cheers, -- Constance Allen aka F.I.G. Newton (Rumpole's Private Detective) Ripon, California mailto:constance_allen@charter.net