Thanks, Kris. Yes, that is another subject, but I know what you are driving at. Thanks for the explanation of the fermentation. I am planning to use George's recipe for Napa cabbage and your "science" and see what I come up with. I'll keep y'all posted of any "gourmet" results. Wish me luck! HA! Rob << Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 07:35:51 +0100 From: "Kristofer Blennow" <kristofer@blennow.se> Subject: Re: [CH] Kim-Chi - addendum Oops, forgot to mention one of the most important things... LAB are anaerobic. They don't like oxygen. So keep air out, otherwise other bacteria that LIKE air might take over. The whole idea is to kill the competition (what else is new). One could also mention that there is another anaerobic beast, C. Botulinum, that would be happy to take over. But let's not get into that... ;) Kris >>