Hey HotHeads ... here's an abbreviated version of an online item from BioMedNet. more in-depth info, including ... receptor fragments, transmembrane domains, and cytoplasmic loops ... may be found by registering at www.bmn.com , then checking the magazine section for the full article. ------------------------------------- " *** Some like it hot *** by Karin Römisch How come birds (and toads!) can eat the most fiery jalapenos? It turns out that the pain-producing substance in hot peppers, the vanilloid capsaicin, can only be sensed by mammals. The vanilloid receptor is a non-selective cation channel, formed by the polytopic membrane protein VR1, which can also be activated by heat; thus VR1 acts as an integrator of noxious stimuli in mammals. ( etc. etc. etc.) Jordt and Julius assumed that birds express a capsaicin-insensitive version of VR1. ( another snip, snip ... ) So what’s in it for the chili? The original function of any fruit - including hot peppers - is to attract animal consumers to eat the fruit and thus disperse the seeds. If chili plants take precautions to selectively deter mammals, that must mean that mammals are not adequate for seed dispersal, possibly because they digest the seeds. A recent study by Tewksbury and Nabhan confirms this suspicion: they found that seeds of mild chilis no longer germinated after ingestion by rodents, but germination was unaffected if the seeds had been eaten by birds. These feeding experiments also confirmed that rats and mice are cautious in their approach to chilis - they will nibble on mild ones, but only if they have never had a hot one - whereas birds show no such inhibitions. It would be interesting to investigate whether mammals and capsaicin evolved at the same time. Did dinosaurs only know mild peppers, or is it simply that the chili plants that produce capsaicin survived better when mammals became their dominant predators? " --------------------------------- ... wish there was more about the toad thing ... anyone having problems with roaming gangs of chile-chomping, post-dinosauric, predatory pepper toads in their garden ?? i get all wobbly-legged just pondering those steely-eyed amphibians plotting their next raid on my habaneros !!! riiibbbitt peter g ( dominant predator. for sure. )