Jim, As a lawyer, you know that she must be charged, tried and convicted before she can be sentenced. Since you have alleged your daughter has committed a capital offense against El Grande, you must charge her with the appropriate degree of murder or Chileslaughter. You have already stated your case. You should allow your daughter the opportunity to either negotiate a plea agreement or if she pleads not guilty, to use your e-mail to post to the list and present her defense. The list members can then be judge and jury. It is possible that you may share the guilt here by placing El Grande on a precarious perch in your refrigerator. Blue skies and hot chiles, Frank -----Original Message----- From: owner-chile-heads@globalgarden.com [mailto:owner-chile-heads@globalgarden.com]On Behalf Of Jim Nelson Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 8:16 AM To: Chile Heads Post Subject: [CH] The proper punishment I de-lurk again for sage wisdom and advice on the appropriate penance for the following infraction. College age daughter breezes through the kitchen door last night at 9:15 and like all good teens makes a bee line for the refrigerator door. She flings it open with such gusto and and lack of care that she dislodges a bottle of Brianna's Chipotle Cheddar sauce/dressing which then explodes on the kitchen floor sending glass and chipotle/chedder sauce all over the place.. After the predictable scramble to get the dog away from the sauce and glass, in mitigation for the offense, she did clean up the mess. That said there remains the matter of the chipotles who died in vain and the sauce that will never (sniff, sniff) reach its full potential, murdered as it was in the prime of life. I told her ( with a diabolical smile) that I would place her fate in the hands of the Chileheads to decide the just penance for such a heinous crime :} and thus I turn to you, dear friends. Jim (the chilehead lawyer to distinguish from other more venerable Jim's among us)