Pods, Risa's dinner post reminds me, I did something recently that while it turned out hotter than the SO was expecting, I was able to finish mine. The idea is to experiment with burger flavourings and use different ground meats (my current main theme is for poultry burgers) and this particular one uses the Carolina Heat mix below, plus some other things. As anyone who's made that mix knows, it's incendiary. Here's what I did with it, this version was not toned down and didn't need the cumin: ======================= Basic mixture: 1+ lb ground meat (up to 1.25lbs) 1/2C dry goods 5T wet goods (1 large egg is 4T (1/4C)) 1/3C chopped vegetables ======================= August 19, 2002 Carolina Heat Burgers 1lb lean ground turkey (beef, or chicken will also work) 1/3C Carolina Heat rub mixture (from "Serves 12, unless Roy's invited") 2T dried bread crumbs or matzo meal 1 large egg (1t ground cumin) 1T Worcestershore sauce 1/3C chopped fresh cilantro (or parsley) Makes 4 INCENDIARY patties. You can substitute more paprika, onion and garlic powders for some of the Carolina Heat rub mix, or even a little brown sugar for a less incendiary burger mix. Serves 12 Unless Roy's Invited (Southern Recipes At Their Best) By Lynda Harrill (C) 1990 by Lynda Harrill ISBN: 0-399-51617-4 Perigee Books The Putnam Publishing Group 200 Madison Avenue NYC NY 10016 Carolina Heat "I make this up in large batches. It'll keep for months in an airtight container. I usually make enough to give to neighbours and friends. We normally use it on seafood, but we've been known to sprinkle it on chicken and steaks, even scrambled eggs. Makes about 2-1/2C." 3/4C paprika 5T garlic powder 5T onion powder 5T cayenne powder 4T freshly ground black pepper 3T freshly ground white pepper 2T thyme 2T oregano Combine all ingredients in large mixing bowl. Mix thoroughly. Store in airtight container. I currently have mine in a quart mason jar, and some in a little shaker jar I got for this sort of thing from Pendery's. I've been using it as I cook hamburgers recently, shake-shake-simmer-flip, shake-shake-simmer-flip. Great stuff used like that, too. I'm still boggling that Mr. Vindaloo Man found his burger too hot! My tolerance must really have risen of late. Maybe it's my habit of eating snacks laced with my previously mentioned favourite habanero sauces? If that's why, the result was amusing. I wasn't raising my tolerance on purpose to outclass the SO but I apparently did. I just about set his hair on fire with this one. There are two more of the burgers in the freezer. The SO has vowed that next time he "will have more water on hand". He's such a brave lad. -babs