Walt, here in the States we can get an ointment called Capzasin.HP that really works well on my arthritis. Made by a company called Chattem in Chatanooga, TN. Never heard of them before, may just be a small outfit that doesn't export, but surely some of the big outfits make a capcaicin cream like this too. Think someone here on the list a couple of years ago posted their own recipe for making this stuff, also. Fred the habaneronut > Maybe I needed an oil > base or something to enable the Capsaicin to > penetrate? I would have been > better off spreading that Hab on a slice of toast > and eating it. > > Anyone got any facts that might make applying Habs > for pain a bit more > productive? I could sure do with some sound advice > on those lines. Hottest > regards to one and all. Walt. CH#2218. An old > Chile-Head from the old > country. >