There must be many who rush around looking all over for hot sauces whilst under there noses there has to be one of the greats of all time. If you have not tried Jims Red Savina mash then you have missed out on a truly great experience. Do I have anything to do with Mild to Wild Pepper Co?: No, only as a person who has swopped seeds with Jim and received his generous bounty in the form of sauces. Jim says this is because I occasionally perform the job of list cop. I would say it is just because Jim is a great guy that I would like to call a friend. Am I biased?: yes. http://www.wildpepper.com/ List cop mode I know with all the great stuff in the mail that in the excitement to reply the original message is sometimes left at the end. Please, it serves no purpose other than to clutter up the digest and gives people who have just joined the wrong model to emulate, so please delete it. Peter -- Peter Moss "Well, let's just say, 'if your VCR is still blinking 12:00, you don't want Linux'". - Bruce Perens