Byron, et al: The black internal rot I was originally referring to was definitely mold- associated, because I looked at it under my field 'scope. The dark seed phenomenon he is referring to could be a case of incomplete development in my experience, causing seeds to turn dark; similar to picking a premature serrano and cutting it open(in 30 minutes exposure to air the seeds will be dark brown and eventually almost black). In the cases I saw, I can't be sure of the CAUSE of the mold, but I know it was mold. Many thanks for digging into it with your contacts. Your searching for information is appreciated. Calvin Byron wrote: > The following is from Dr Paul Grun The Pepper expert at NCSU > > > Dear Byron, > > It's not a big help to you, but they tell me the black seed > > phenomenon is "physiological" i.e. there's not a disease organism > involved, > > but something in the physiology of the growing pepper. In my strains I've > > seen it only in very small fruits. I've assumed the black seeds developed > > abnormally and since seed development was abnormal the fruit stopped > > growing and so was very small. It seems only to show up certain years or > at > > certain places and may have something to do with calcium metabolism. I've > > not run into the ant problem, so can't help there. > > >Paul