(Dave Drum wrote: >Red Gold is from Minnesota and is a closely held family corporation....) Well, uh ...hmmmmm ...http://www.redgold.com/ People from _Indiana_ are proud of their tomatoes. This brand is usually cheaper and of a better quality than other brands of canned 'maters. My few pepper plants have had a hard time this year. Steam-bath, then scorching, now very cool weather. The little creek we pump water from went dry yesterday. Today I see the pepper leaves are being removed by a small hoard of 1/2" striped, fast-moving beetles (?). It's always something. Jeannine Smallwood Underwood, Indiana USA http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Fields/5000/