Brent wrote: <<'tepin' is a general term covering a lot of selections, hence considerable variation is possible, and anyway all chile plants vary in size depending on cultural conditions... But, anyway, tepins are sort of a mid-sized plant typically 3-4 feet tall -- i.e., typically a foot or two taller than most C. chinense varieties, and a foot or two shorter than most C. baccatum varieties. But being more cold-hardy than most chiles, they tend to live several years, growing larger each year. Like all chiles, you can grow them indoors if pot is big enough and they get enough light. A 5-gal. pot will be ok for a year or two. But a bigger pot affords conditions more amenable to larger harvests (e.g., a 7- or 10-gal. pot is great).>> okay, okay since you brought it up...... I'm growing habs in a big plastic pot (not sure of size, you could fit a small tree in it though) Can I winter these? (ie, can I bring the pot inside and just keep watering it until next spring?) Last year I kept the pot outdoors too long, and all the plants died. I've got about 4 plants in the pot now, and its grown to 3-4 feet in height. Would LOVE to start from plants next year rather than seeds ! ;D What sort of light would I need? thanks guys, Jenee (who's got a severe case of hunan hand because she was too lazy to go back to her car for the gloves she "borrowed" from work last night ;) "Like a guy in a bra, it's the idea that counts" ---Greg Brown visit my webpage: www.penpapercoffee.com pen, paper, coffee - the elements of writing