To Rob, Carp, Sharon, and anyone else interested...there are a number of different kinds of "choy" ...Suey choy, quite dense, fat, cylindrical in shape, very mild, ususally shredded for use in stir frys. Then we have regular bok choy, which grows fairly large, up to a foot or more in height, has a thick, fleshy stem, and the leaves are dark green and large, and is also used in stir frys....it has a much different flavor. And then we have baby or Shanghai bok choy, a simply wonderful little vegetable, about 6-7 " in height, approx. 2" in diameter at the base, very light green leaves, which are green to the base as well, and the flavor is much much different to either of the others....Rob, if you have a Chinese green grocer, or given that you are in the Netherlands, try an Indonesian market, of which, I am sure, you must have a few....the Chinese market will have them, the Indonesian one should have them....and for everyone else, wherever you live, try a Chinese market. Every city on this continent has a Chinese population,if you have not checked out their food stores, do so, their hot sauces and chili pastes are a big surprise to those who have not used them. Cheers, Doug in BC > > >