I just noticed that this site has chile neckties for sale. The red pepper design looks like one I found a couple of years ago at a small mall shop. I have not purchased anything from the site yet--I only know of it because of a business association with the owner. http://www.deescajungifts.com/request.html Direct to the necktie page https://www203.bellsouth-hosting.net/deesca/CajunNeckTies.html Dan Hirschi in Van Nuys (in So Cal) p.s. so far the serranos are still alive--if I get lucky they will survive the winter...