>LOL! Actually mares are like that. They do poop in the same area. Makes >clean up >easier. Now sheep shit any ol' place and pee when they get upset. :-) Always knew mares were smarter than sheep. My best bed, formerly hard as rock clay subsoil, has been amended with sawdust used as bedding at the cow barn of the local artificial insemination unit of Cornell's Agricultural school. It did wonders for the tilth. Need to make 25 more trips to get enough for the other vegetable beds (some now given over to irises), then I can begin to think about improving the flower beds, although they are not subsoil and not nearly as bad. The compost helped a lot, too. We had two spreader loads of cow manure delivered two years ago, on top of which the entire leaf fall from the village was dumped. We've had to move it one wheelbarrow at a time but it's worth it, despite the weeds. Actually used it all and still need much more, but in the end the soil will be great. Cheryl Schaefer, Schaefer Yarns Beautiful hand painted fibers schaefer@epix.net Zone 5 in the fabulous Finger Lakes of NY