>also. Isn't it cheaper to hire someone with a *big* tiller which can go >deeply and do a proper job than buying a feather weight mantis? A good >deep till with lots of mulch/whatever lasts a long time. > >Lucinda You really would be surprised how efficient the Mantis is. We have raised beds and although the big tiller we have can go up and in, since the ends are open, my husband much prefers the Mantis for turning in materials. He finishes with the monster so that we end up with a flat surface. Cheryl Schaefer schaefer @epix.net Zone 5 in the fabulous Finger Lakes of NY