snip> >I've never had much luck with no-till gardening here, I think it may be to >wet. We average 65 inches of rainfall per annum and some times we get 6 or >8 inches all at once. We experimented with no-till a number of years ago >and got bumper crops of snails, slugs, pill bugs, earwigs, and lots of mold >and mildew. Even on an average sunny day we will have 96% humidity. We do >mulch in the summer but not deeply. I'm solarizing the new patch along the >fence with polyethylene film weighted with brick bats and then will turn >under the dead grass and weeds. Still contemplating getting a Mantis tiller >as I have trouble using a shovel anymore. > >George Tilling does a better and quicker job unless you are working in a very small space and can't use a tiller. I bought a very small shovel from Lee Valley (carbon steel which I prefer) and it works pretty well, not like digging up lots with a big shovel. I have trouble shoveling these days also. Isn't it cheaper to hire someone with a *big* tiller which can go deeply and do a proper job than buying a feather weight mantis? A good deep till with lots of mulch/whatever lasts a long time. Lucinda