At 02:43 PM 1/30/98 -0500, you wrote: >snip> >>I've never had much luck with no-till gardening here, I think it may be to >>wet. We average 65 inches of rainfall per annum and some times we get 6 or >>8 inches all at once. We experimented with no-till a number of years ago >>and got bumper crops of snails, slugs, pill bugs, earwigs, and lots of mold >>and mildew. Even on an average sunny day we will have 96% humidity. We do >>mulch in the summer but not deeply. I'm solarizing the new patch along the >>fence with polyethylene film weighted with brick bats and then will turn >>under the dead grass and weeds. Still contemplating getting a Mantis tiller >>as I have trouble using a shovel anymore. >> >>George > >Tilling does a better and quicker job unless you are working in a very >small space and can't use a tiller. I bought a very small shovel from Lee >Valley (carbon steel which I prefer) and it works pretty well, not like >digging up lots with a big shovel. I have trouble shoveling these days >also. Isn't it cheaper to hire someone with a *big* tiller which can go >deeply and do a proper job than buying a feather weight mantis? A good >deep till with lots of mulch/whatever lasts a long time. > >Lucinda > My daughter has an 8-hp Troybilt but the problem is getting a truck to get it the 125 miles from her house to ours. I can rent tillers at the local u-rent place, Troybilt at that, but it's still a truck problem. They charge as much to drop it off and pick it up as the rental fee. My next door neighbor has a tiller and doesn't even garden anymore but he and I don't get along to well. We're cordial to each other but not what you could call buddies. I think the Mantis or, even better, a small rear tine tiller would do the jobs we need. We have a small lot with a big house. George