On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, Liz Albrook wrote: > Thanks for the suggestions, Kay. I thought that lobelia cardinalis > is a perennial -- did I miss something here? I'm sure that area is > going to have borage in it -- it was my most common weed last year. > And parsley -- I can't seem to get rid of parsley. It's even growing > in the rock-soil-black plastic area around my pool. Nothing kills Wish I had your parsley problems. I love tabouli, and seem to be able to eat all I grow. The parsley edging in front gets harvested last, but it still gets harvested. ;-) It is, but it's weakly perennial, and blooms the first year from seed. It's commonly found on sandbars in rivers in the Missouri Ozarks, and in those sorts of ephemeral habitats, it's wise to get your seeds germinating and the new seeds set ASAP. I think my record was 6 weeks seed to first flower starting with green seed. At any rate, individual plants seem to die within 3-5 years, though there's always volunteers coming on. At least that was the way it was in my IA gardens. Someplace I've got a list of perennials that do a fairly good job of flowering in their first year, but I'll have to dig it up and see which don't require much time from seed. Hey, don't forget the larkspurs! Or do they burn out in your summers? Kay Lancaster kay@fern.com just west of Portland, OR; USDA zone 8